Originally Posted by
TheBaron
Some of you guys amaze me with your greed....
I currently benefit quite nicely from the >8 capture. Nice easy 10 hour leg to Sydney, a couple of days off, then up to Subic. I see on average an extra 6-7 hours a month because of it. A pretty good deal for me. But it didn't help the guys doing the hardest part of our job...the ones doing multiple Subic hub turns with minimum layovers. That's why I disagree with the push for special provisions for the 777. Relatively easy flying and demanding to be paid a premium for it yet it will only ever benefit a small portion of the crew force. Give me an across the board pay raise and work rule changes that benefit everyone, not just the elite.

Um.. A Small portion of the crew force? When I got on the 11 we had a total of 20! Yes, way back in 96.... How stupid would it have been of me to take the position you now take on the 777 under the guise of it only helping "a small percentage of the crew force"? Had the guys here then had the same opportunity we now have with the 777 and agreed to pay it WB rates due to it "only benefiting a small percentage of the crew force" i.e. "The senior Guys" I'd be livid! (better adjectives Vagabond?

) fyi.... We now have about 120 11/10 jets... Public math says an increase of
600% (bold type for those of you looking thru the proverbial paper towel telescope for the BIG picture) in the number of jets.
Look more than next month down the road. You and a lot of other guys will be flying the 777 and your retirement will be based on what "rate" we agree to now. Each and every pay raise we get in the future (
Your retirement pay for those of your who think only the "Senior" guys will retire) will be based on what we get today. Something will eventually replace the 11. Don't think it will be the 767 or the 787. Nothing new is on the board so it will be many years that we will have the 777....
Don't use today's paradigms for tomorrows answers!