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Old 01-01-2009, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PastV1 View Post
So when would you like to make a stand? When the PAX guys were making 330/hr on the 777. FDX mgt said "we're not an airline" We are also not in the pax industry. What is your argument to the company when the Pax guys get back to those rates and you agreed to fly the 777 for standard WB rates? What neg capital are you willing to give up to get better rates for the 777?

Congress has nothing to do with our current CBA.

Do you know why we didn't take a pay cut after 9/11? While all the other PAX carriers did and our other employees also lost benefits? Because we had a contract. Our company never lost a dime after 9/11 but went hat in hand wanting Gov money. Had we not had a contract the company would have bent us over in a heart beat. We now have the upper hand on the 777 and cannot let it slip away.

Should the need arise to lower the rate of the 777 AFTER we have a rate larger than the 11 then that could be neg but we would have the higher rate and the higher break out for larger/ulr aircraft for the rest of our lives......
My point about congress is that they reflect (somewhat) the feelings of their constituents. Airline pilots are still (incorrectly, granted) thought of as overpaid. If we "take a stand" against the company on this, it will go to arbitration and I can pretty much guarantee we won't be getting any sympathy. What would you suggest we give up now to get the pay rates you would like to see for the 777. The company has already seen that at least 250 members of our group are happy to fly the plane for nothing. After all, it doesn't have a pay rate.
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