Originally Posted by
skypig
From Section 23...Can anyone explain to me what I'm missing here? How are these guys getting around this section of the CBA. There will be no vacancies in the back seat, as there were none prior to age 65 but this section seems to be ignored. Thanks.
2. Notwithstanding the provisions of Section 23.A.1. and B.1., the
following apply to a pilot subject to a regulated age restriction:
a. If the pilot is involuntarily excessed from his current crew
position and, as a result of his restriction, he is ineligible to
be awarded or assigned any other crew position, the pilot
may be furloughed.
b. The pilot may be bypassed on recall from furlough until
there is an available crew position that he is eligible to be
awarded or assigned.
c. A restricted pilot who cannot move to or be accommodated
as a second offi cer from another crew position because
his relative seniority is less than the current population of
second offi cers or there are no second offi cer crew seats,
shall be offered the opportunity to retire as provided in
the Agreement.
Following a pilot’s rejection of the offer,
the pilot shall be released from employment as provided
in Section 22.B.1., and shall not be considered as having
been furloughed in cases where the only crew status the
pilot can occupy is second offi cer.
Seems to me that they could argue that the company has been doing this for years and that as a result they would have a potential lawsuit as a legal precedent has been set.
"or there are no second officer crew seats" as we're learning that language could be interpreted to mean no seats on property(i.e. no more 72s or 10s)
I wish they'd just go away but I doubt this will matter. So many of these guys just don't have anything else to do and this job makes them feel like they are still being productive and keeps up their self esteem. Sad but true.
Now, of course, there are those guys like a 78 year old United 747-200 Engineer I met back in the late 90s who told me that he would die in his seat so that his ex-wife would not get a penny of his retirement. Don't know what he did after they ran out of Engineer seats. Poor guy could hardly carry his bag down the jetway.
I'm sure we have guys like that here which negates the whole you make as much retired as you do working the panel.
I just wish we could get the 75s faster. The whole 3-2 man thing would be negated by all of the NDs being forced out.