Old 01-16-2009, 03:42 AM
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cloudkicker1981
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Originally Posted by cloudkicker1981 View Post

I do support a merging of our lists (wouldn't have volunteered on the OC if I didn't agree with this), but not if the attitude of the Pinnacle pilot group is in line with what's being said by some of the Pinnacle guys on here.
It hasn't even been a month since we voted in ALPA, and these guys are already talking DOH?! In retrospect I guess I shouldn't have expected them to want anything else (besides a staple if they could do it), but it's still surprising and telling.
Many Colgan pilots didn't want to vote because they were fearful of being screwed by Pinnacle pilots if we merged. I tried my best trying to convince some of those coworkers that Pinnacle guys were willing to work with us. To think I defended that, I kinda feel like an idiot now.
Whatever happened to "fair and equitable" and "working together" as touted repeatedly by the Pinnacle MEC during our campaign? How about the Colgan pilots who finally changed their minds because some Pinnacle guys worked tirelessly (Scott Erickson for example) to reassure them that Pinnacle wasn't out to get us? Am I wrong to expect some integrity on the part of fellow pilots and think that they would honor their promises?
I remember reading ALPA literature (had to do my homework before I started trying to convince anyone why we should vote) which specifically stated that alpa DOESN'T support DOH. The reasons should be obvious to anyone.
I understand everyone has to watch out for themselves, but let's be intelligent here. What's more fair for EVERYONE involved - Pinnacle guys getting their windfall and Colgan guys getting screwed, or doing something like what DAL/NWA did which only affected EVERYONE A LITTLE. A merger is never going to be perfect, and right now I can't think of anything more fair (for everyone involved again, not just one group) than relative seniority. I could see how Pinnacle guys would be opposed to relative seniority because it does benefit the Colgan group a little more, but it still has way less drastic effects on both groups than DOH. I wonder if any of the Pinnacle guys wanting DOH with us ever thought that it was unreasonable that US Air guys would only consider DOH during their merger.
I certainly hope my hard work wasn't for nothing.
Nicely said and I would really like to see guys like you on our MEC. I am one of those guys who was totally against ALPA last year and also voted for it this year. Which shows by the voting was the case with alot of us. I truely give huge props (lol) to you guys on the OC, Colgan and Pinnicale guys both.

A percentage should be the only fair way to go. Pinnicale guys out number Colgan 3 to 1 so even if we did jump it wouldn't effect Pinnicale guys a whole lot.

I believe though that in the end it will be a fair merger to the best that it can be. Both groups really need to look at it as becoming one and not hating eachother. The only winner in that senario will be management who is exactly why we wanted to merge in the first place, not because of a few seniority numbers.

I jumpseat alot through DTW on PNCL. BSing with the crews gives me the impression that the pilot groups r alot alike. We both have balls and will have no problem voting for a strike if need be or backing eachother up. Lets work together to show what two hardball pilot groups can accomplish!
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