Originally Posted by
ewrbasedpilot
So why do they apply for a job when they KNOW what the pay and benefits are? Seems they aren't doing ANYONE a favor, are they?
Career, progression, it's been going on for years. You do know that, right?
Originally Posted by
ewrbasedpilot
A slot is only freed up when a new bid comes out with openings, NOT when someone leaves training. Contrary to what you may think, it's a lot more complex than just bringing in a replacement.
Yep, I know that. But when airlines are hiring, they factor in a lot of things. Staffing needs, as well as attrition. Contrary to what you might think.
Originally Posted by
ewrbasedpilot
The pay and benefits are what our union negotiated for us, and then voted on by the WHOLE pilot group. Sure, we can demand $500 an hour, but seriously, do think we'll get it? Once again this a much more complex issue than "demand and you shall receive". Again, do you think none of the newhires has any idea about the pay and benefits when they get hired?????
Thats usually the most simple argument. But you still had to vote, right?
Originally Posted by
ewrbasedpilot
You keep saying "that's the cost of doing business", but does that make it right? All it does is makes it harder for the next guys to get on
How's it going to make it harder. The airline still has to hire to staff.
Originally Posted by
ewrbasedpilot
.......so who's it hurting? (Also, at CAL if a newhire that you recommend leaves during or after training, your recommedations will no longer will be accepted, so in essence it hurts your credibility as a sponsor too.
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Thats between the "sponsor" and the guy that left.
Originally Posted by
ewrbasedpilot
I'm glad you haven't applied to CAL. There's thousands of pilots who DO want to come here. Please let them have a shot at one of our slots.
No problem
Originally Posted by
ewrbasedpilot
One thing I can't stand is hearing a newhire complain about flying a new plane on longhaul routes, having never sat a day of reserve in his life, and how rough his life is having paid his "dues" for a whopping three years....all before he's 26 years old.
Then maybe you should bid off the equipment if it bothers you so much. Get into something that has a different age demographic.