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Old 01-21-2009 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails
You completely neglected the fact that scope eroded and RJ growth exploded, eliminating the mainline positions of mainline pilots while they were still out on the street.

This time around, a huge chunk of the cuts are going to be those same planes that were being delivered after 9/11. Mainline fleets will shrink too (and they already have as we all know) but unless scope changes, they won't shrink as much as they did last time.

Why did you post your thought in the Compass thread? We know you have some personal agenda against Compass, which is fine, but your comment will not be read by anyone that doesn't open a thread about an airline that isn't even hiring.
Pertaining to the scope, you hit the nail on the head. While I did neglect to mention scope, I also neglected many other aspects that otherwise would likely produced a document with quite a bit of length for a forum post.

Often times it requires a cafeful construction of words to convey the full meaning of ones words, anything short of that and the tone can be misconstrued for another meaning altogether. I have obviously erred on that side. I have no agenda against the "pilots" of Compass, none whatsoever. In fact I wish all of them the best! My perspective will likely be quite different than most on this forum as I come from a long lineage of military service. That being said, I am completely accustomed to peers speaking candidly and open to the frequent counsel of others, especially when they have been in my situation. This concept of openess helped me drastically when after three years at a dead-end commuter job, no upgrade in sigtht, fellow military pilots (flowbacks) pointed out the facts and provided explanation as needed. I remember hearing comments to the tune of pay, work rules, wasting time, move on, chase an upgrade; all of which pointed in one direction, ditching that $36 an hour commuter job where I was flying 100 hours a month to break even in life. For me it worked. Had it not been the continuous bombardment by my peers, those who looked after my career path (both civilian and military), I would still be slinging gear at now $38 an hour with still no upgrade in sight wondering if aviation ever got any better.

The fact of the matter is, the year after I quit Eagle ended up being my most rewarding year in aviation to date. I flew to the most remote and exotic destinations, no trashy hotels, rental cars, FBOs, all inclusive resorts and most importantly, I was paid commensurate with experience and NBAA salary. Admittedly, my first few weeks away from the Eagle were the "unknown." However, it only took about two months and I realized that all that counseling, whether solicited or not, paid off.

So what is my point in posting in the Compass forum? The pilots are experienced well beyond their pay and the respect they command (trust me, the corporate side of the house harbors little respect for regional pilot community and fortunately the NBAA doesn't factor in regional pay while computing pay scales). Aside from holding ok pay in the left seat and gaining years worth of experience, a guy in the right seat will likely find himself well into the highest levels of frustration as his college peers eclipse his yearly earnings and quality of life, year after year. Please remember I have friends on their 10th year of regional FO pay, they aren't digging it staring at another 5.

Please, my aggression is not towards the pilots. Any of those guys that have been on our jumpseat have walked away fed and well taken care of (even when the overhead bins are full). I am simply responding to the original poster who also had a problem with the "criminal" pay rate of $24 an hour.
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