Very true, and I admit I was being a little disingenuous by leaving that bit of information out of my previous posts. However, for me personally, I preferred pass traveling at PDT, when non-revving was free unless you wanted to travel in a higher class than coach. I think I jumpseated within the Airways system exactly twice in as many years, only because coach was full. It was a lot less headache--and a lot cheaper than in the CAL system--just to list and get a seat.