I too just read the "Furlough is an inherent risk" thread and could not post before it was closed. While I do not agree with Say4Do4, I'm glad he posted his opinion. And i wish people could refrain from the personal attacks so ths discussion could have continued......... My experience over the last month is that his stance is not as isolated as I would have thought. In fact, many of his statements were practically verbatim from a dinner conversation with several crewmembers last trip. In fact, I was in the minority voicing my support for the union. But what it all boils down to is either you agree with the concept (as stated in our contract, as stated by our union on many occasions) that we all should make less to keep most if not all our members on the property or you dont. And at this point, Im not sure how a vote on this issue with the membership would land.