as someone who is in that top 40% i don't want to see a furlough either....i actually enjoy the extra days off....but md10 is right we have no leverage here....the union has to be careful because if they win the grievance after the excess they will probably furlough....this is very complicated....as u may know i am not happy with the leadership right now so i have trouble blindly getting on the side of DW .....in my 14 yrs i feel i have been screwed once by the company with the optimizer which affected 2 months of flying and once by the union with DWs age 65 debacle which cost me 5 years of seniority....i think he may be trying to pump himself up fully knowing that we have no leverage here and then he leaves office on a hi note....then the next guy looks like the bad guy.......seriously everyone is getting all pumped up here....for what?....someone tell me what we can do?....where is our leverage?...it seems if we win the grievance the juniors guys are toast and if we lose the grievance the junior guys are toast also....bottom line is 42ab was a mistake....and of course we did it to ourselves by voting for and ratifying it!.....i would rather see both sides talk more...fix the carryover issue and keep everyone on the property....any thought guys?