Originally Posted by John Pennekamp

I don't disagree, but the point is that there isn't much we can do to stop it. Instead of burying their heads in the sand and wishing the 60s back, ALPA isn't doing much. They need to be adapting to the times.



Really?
How about truck drivers? Are they all union?
Bus drivers? Nope.
Airplane mechanics? Nope.
Delta's flight attendants? Nope.

Tell me again what makes pilots so special? And you accused ME of having a chip on my shoulder on another thread?



And how many non union airliners are falling out of the sky worldwide? YGBKM!

I have read both volumes of Flying the Line. This is not that era anymore! Put down the Kool Aid and realize that times have changed, and we need to adapt to the new reality, not continue to stand firm in the face of a tidal wave coming. Open skies changed EVERYTHING and Virgin America is the tip of the spear. If the US pilot groups don't change now and get together with management to fight it, we will be extinct in 20 years. The US airline industry will be like what the shipping industry is.