The posters here that don't think it's so bad think that because they look at others around them. They also look at the time that it was being negoatiated and the circumstances around that. They successfully dodged a whipsaw attempt by merging multiple seniority lists as well as got rid of junior manning and setup some pretty strong language about mergers and acquisitions of other companies. Considering it was post 9/11 I'd say these guys did a damn good job.