CareerCFI, with a name like this, and your intended inclusion of being that of a non-CA ( with no hopes of ever being one in the 121 Field ) Who are you to make such bold statements about thousands of pilots you've never/will never fly with ? What kind of a man sits back at the computer and throws such disparaging remarks about the state of the industry, when even Skyhigh is of the belief that if you can get through training/IOE you deserve to be there. I feel ashamed to call you a brethern at this point and I can only hope you're not making some convoluted connection to what happened in BUF last night to the state of the industry. As stated multiple times by almost everyone on this forum, we're all here to do a job and to do it safely. There is no need for Grey Hairs to ' beat the sense into us ' and tell us not to chew gum in the cockpit. It is no ones fault that the state of the industry is such as it was whenever a pilot gets hired, and no one should be put under scrutiny because of this. When airlines hire, they hire, you jump on if/when you can. For someone to say that the level of what a PAX is getting for the same price of a ticket is less now than it was before, is pig-headed at best, and I only hope some day you wake up from such a dillusion of the mind.