Originally Posted by
USMCFLYR
Have any C-17 (or any heavies) been damaged by enemy fire in theater? I don't know the answert to this; but if not - then it sounds like the Blue Threat has claimed 3 damaged airframes and the Red Threat none. We have a history of hurting ourselves in some aspects more than the enemy does. There is certainly a time and place for higher risk operations. I would assume that the proper ORM for all operations is being conducted for all aircraft operating in and around the OAR.
USMCFLYR
As someone mentioned above, one 17 was hit by a MANPAD, and it's been a while. Several have been hit by small arms.
There have been far more than 3 damaged airframes AOR mishaps, I can think of 7 without much effort.
ORM is a great thing, but you can never forget that in essence it's an attempt to quantify the inherently unquantifiable. It's only as good as the model used, and how well it's filled out. I just did the wonderful new version of AMC's yesterday for a young crew. I filled it out correctly, but it came with a much lower score than I would have put on the very young crew. Not to mention it requires info that the AF doesn't even track--PIC time? Where is that on the flight records?