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Old 02-23-2009 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Vito
Block 30,

Most of the previous posters hit the nail on the head, however one asect of this conversation that is hard to explain to non-mil pilots is the "Mission" I'm positive given enough time any pilot can take-off and land an F-16 C-130 or C-17, however, and this is the part most civilians can't understand, is the military takes it for granted a pilot can take-off, land or fly an IFR approach to minimums, little emphisis is placed on these skills sets, matter of fact after flying 6+ hours in formation, the CAT II approach was easy, not bragging, just trying to explain. What matters to the military and sets the mil pilot apart is accomplishing the mission, whether that be dropping bombs, paratroopers, or shooting down another jet..You would be amazed at how much work, coordination and planning goes into even the most standard missions. add to the mix the possibility of people shooting at you, low-level ops, flying on NVG's, weather, Maintanance issues and the complexity and workload really ramps up. For example as a Airdrop guy, if your leading a 6-ship and the 3rd jet breaks what do you do?? You'll have about ten minutes to figure out a plan and execute it. If you delay the mission to fix it, but if you do the troops on the ground will be waiting, exposed to the enemy for however long you've delayed the mission. Or you can scrub #3 out of the mission but the gunners who will operate the artillery thats on #2 are on #3 so The artillery becomes useless cargo...or if weather causes you to deviate around a system you may miss your rendevous time with the KC-135 tankers, that will pass the fuel to you so you can complete the mission, so do you penetrate a small sytsem and stay on time?? if you do you must send the formation into a different formation in order to penetrate the weather....yada yada yada, as you can see issues escalate and decisions have to be made quickly and be sound...as you can see taking off, and landing are in consequential in the big scheme of things...compound this times 3 to a single seat guy, and you may begin to see the point. There were alot of Civ pilots in my UPT class with hundreds of hours that washed out because they didn'y multi-task, and prioritize as well as others.
Vito,

Believe me, I respect what you do, and let me say again that I wouldn't be able to saddle up and keep up with you all. I turn wrenches on the F-16 (Block 30 [hence my screen name]) which also helps me understand what it is that sets you apart.

You just listed a bunch of reasons why military pilots are awesome, and indeed you are. Myself and the aforementioned checkout flight instructor both had a preconceived notion of this very high ability, and shame on us, we overlooked some of the "basics" and to be fair, I really think this gentleman did, too.

Before I get out, I will say this; I respect military pilots, as I have now explained ad nauseum. As far as flying the weather, I really listen to the freight dogs. When they talk, I listen. They do their job year round, in the t-storms, in the ice, in the mountains, single pilot, in pistons with just enough performance to keep them right square in the thick of the weather. From where I sit, these pilots seldom get the credit they deserve.

Of course, I could say that about flight instructors, but that would be a little biased

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