Originally Posted by
newKnow
Ok, let me start. Historically, we have sucked. But, that does not mean that we should continue to suck. We need to elect leaders who refuse to go about things differently with a different mindset.
I think what will get managements attention is if we elect "new" leaders. And by "new" I mean somewhat more radical. You know, like how George Washington and John Adams were....
New K Now
Help me out here. Can you show me a single example in recent memory of "radical leadership" at a company losing money producing positive results?
UAL? Nope. They've now got a court order hanging over them.
APA? Nope. How many are still on furlough since 2001?
AAA? Nope. They've got a busted union, double bankruptcy payrates, and no hope in sight.
How about the not so radicals? The ones that conduct business.
CAL? Gone through the least pain of the majors post 2001.
SWAPA? Industry leading rates and a new contract (even though they're shrinking next year).
DAL/NWA? Payraises to merge, equity distribution, signficant retirement enhancements, all while losing money.
I think I'd stick with the businessmen.