Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
In effect the perfect storm.
Contract C2K changed the manning requirements which canceled my class.
False. The last class was hired July 16, 2001. Subsequent classes were cancelled due to the economy, not scope or the manning formula. You might recall that Delta sat down 56 L1011 TriStars and over 100 727's in very short order. 9/11 didn't help.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
DALPA then changed or loosened scope in 2001 and four other times since then.
Removing the cap on 50 seat jets, raising the block hr cap on DCI from 27-32% to 42% now to 62% of all DAL flying (There is no cap now), Allowing 70 seat jet, allowing 76 seat jets, raising the amount of 76 seat jets allowed, and finally allowing the increased gross weight on the CPZ jets.
This is where you come into the spin zone. Please review for the group the timeline of each of these decisions, realizing they were all before you were on the property. For refresher, LOA 46 was 11/11/04, and a bankruptcy avoidance attempt. LOA 51 was 6/1/06 and was a bankruptcy generated agreement under the next to last day of the 1113 process. You might want to review when 70, then 76 seaters were allowed as well. Btw, for a guy who wants to staple CPZ, how were you going to complete the merger with NWA while limiting the scope of their existing contract, order book and fleet?
That merger is what increased your job security and gave you personally increased furlough protection.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
I got in during the last few, but the fact is that when I was hired here in 2001, DCI was ASA, CMR and a little SKW out of SLC.
Sort of...ASA had hubs in DFW and ATL, CMR had hubs in MCO and CVG, SKW was in SLC (second RJ operator behind CMR) and LAX.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
In effect it was no more than 3300 pilots. Today DCI actually outnumbered the mainline group. At the end of DAL hiring in 2008 DAL had 7300 or so pilots whereas there were about 7500 pilots flying under the DCI banner.
Not exactly. The post merger DCI has more pilots than the premerger DAL group, but not the post merger DAL group. Mainline has 750 aircraft and DCI from all operators has about 700 in Delta service. While they make up the departure percentages that you point out, they do so while flying less than 20% of the ASM's.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Where did these pilots on DCI's list come from? Well the paragraph above illustrates it. They are flying routes that were flown by mainline. That is an outsourcing of 4000 jobs. If we were able to hold this line on scope I would be looking at upgrade instead of 10 year at a min in the right seat.
Again, not exactly. Point to a full service network airline pilot group that "held the line" on narrowbody scope and show me their mainline growth. It is very presumptous to assume that you would be looking at upgrade vice furlough as in AMR's case, and you acknowledge that in your route viability comment in your next paragraph.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Whether you think of me as management or not, it is immaterial. I am here to add to the constructive dialogue on APC. It is a point of view. Anything that is of an NDA nature is left off the boards. I am a champion of our company. It is a great place to work, but it is ok to recognize that the walls might need repainting, or the chairs in the crew lounge need a re do. Point is that I and many other colleagues on here want to improve the quality of the career. I bet that you fell the same way. I am not willing to accept status quo. You should not either. I apologize if somewhere that got lost in the translation.
Rereading your over 2000 posts show that you do have passion, but you reserve your acidic commentary only for your co-workers that make up our pilot union. I guess I don't find that surprising, but that is what I find offensive. If you were an equal opportunity wall painter, then I'd respond differently.
And I do feel the same way regarding improving the quality of the career. The last word is yours, as I fly early tomorrow.