Ok, here's your help.

First of all, I didn't say I thought we needed radical leadership. I said we needed our leasership to be, "somewhat more radical." So, I understand that the whole burn the house down attitude is probably too extreme. But, there is a reason I wrote that our leaders need to be somewhat more radical.

As for all of your examples, it seems to me that every one of them is losing their shorts to scope, radical or not. Scope is the title of this thread, by the way. Not who has gotten by over the past few years with the least amount of pain.

There is a concerted effort to chip this profession away, piece by piece. In the end it won't matter how painless we made it for ourselves if the end result is that we as mainline pilots have no bargaining power.

In my opinion, all of the airlines pilots are failing in the area of scope. Our "businessman" attitude, as you call it, is short sighted if it is intentional. Because, where we end up is a place where the airlines don't need a mainline. They just have seperate pilot groups fighting amongst themselves to get the scraps. Oh, and by the way, the contract goes to the lowest bidder.

So, while I am not looking for a union to become overly radical, I would like to see someone push back hard against the encroachments to our flying. It's that important, because eventually we won't have any flying to defend.

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