I come here from time to time. This morning I read the first half of X's ref to the TWA vs ALPA lawsuit.
As I usually mention. TWA was not stapled. A staple is when all pilots are put at the very bottom of the seniority list. At the time of AA's purchase of TWA and integration there were 930+ CA's. Many of those are retired now.
As of today's APA 3XP (base/seat list) In SLT (what they call St Louis)
there were 6 767 Int. CA's. with seniority of 3,850 on. there are 110 757/767 Dom CA's seniority 3,245-7,300. there are 249 S80 CA's seniority 4,066-8,182.
For the TWA pilots that retired form 2001 onward they were approx 2,300 seniority onward.
Anyone hired at TWA after 1986 was ratio'd in at 8 AA pilots then 1 TWA pilot downward until there were no more AA pilots. Unfortunatley that meant alot of TWA pilots at the bottom or real staple. But not all, like a real staple imply's.
There are still many ex-TWA check airmen. On our last APA negotiating commitee there were several ex TWA pilots on the NC. Unfortunately our last union president was bent on giving up more concessions. The new Nat officers replaced the former TWA pilots from the NC. My understanding is they were very good. I saw them introduced at a union meeting.
I am half way thru the Ex TWA pilots vs ALPA lawsuit. I've taken some notes and will report back later.
I do find it sad that X seems to take great pleasure in the failings of APA. and ALPA (from another thread), and from AA.
If I was currently furloughed, I would have my bitterness, i'm sure.
For tose following the 7,300 floor dispute, there is a draft ruling. It should be announced soon. APA has stated that they will not comment until ruling is final.
I know it may seem that i am a cheerleader for APA, I do some volunteer work. APA does have it's problems and failures. It is the only union i have.
I will let X's posts speak for themselves.
He had the privelege to flowback to Eagle and has recently quit Eagle.
Others have not had the opportunity to even flowback.

Initial notes form TWA vs ALPA lawsuit
Sounds like suing ALPA for conspiracy because ALPA wanted the combined AA-TWA pilots into ALPA, so they let AA and APA have their way with TWA pilots.
Page 18-20 You have several hours to decide or AA will walk away and bad things will happen.
Pages 31, 3rd BK, which would turn into a liquidation if AA walks away.

Pages 34 adobe index (31)
Even I cannot determine what Jeff Brundage (AA managment HR) is trying to say in quotes.
Basically sounds like AA had leverage to face down APA.

more later. it's playtime. softball
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