Skygirl - I am assuming that where your ID says you are pax seat filler, that means you are a passenger, right? And I know a lot of the pax guys here can back me up when I say, with all due respect, that when it comes to aviation, passengers (and by extension the vast majority of the American public) are dumbassess. Sitting in a seat once a month or once a week or once a day does not make you an expert on the NAS, airline SOPs or even the basics of how an airplane works (ever seen Jay Leno ask people at the airport what the wings on an airplane are for? ) About the only thing it makes you qualified to spout off about is the quality of the pretzels or the temperature of the diet coke. So, with all due respect, you might get more respect and less flack around here (i am at Airline PILOT Central right? If my browser took me to Airline PASSENGER Central again Im going to be pis$ed) if you actually had qualifications that backed up your ranting and cheerleading.