I know this might sound harsh to some of you guys, but why haven't you done anything about it? Im just being realistic here, if there is anything you guys can do, then why not do it? is it that hard to organize pilots to do something collectively? get involved with the Union, raise those minimums to be an airline pilot, or anything to get their attention that pilots cant be treated this way. Im a CFI and i would have no problem with working until I met the requirements for ATP, and I think I'll get there before Ill actually have the opportunity to go to an airline. I'll probably just get my ATP in a seminole ... Now, that the hiring boom is over, most airlines will have higher minimums but its all going to change as soon as they need more pilots. And when that time comes around and they don't have any pilots, perhaps then you can ask for better pay.