Originally Posted by
Flitestar
Let me just throw this out there..
This is what a european resident/citizen must go through to get their JAA Licenses currently... (At least in Spain, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal and Greece, all from which I have first hand knowledge...)
1) Get your certificates/ratings : 2 - 3.5 yrs. and $80 - $100.000 aprox.
2) Pay your A320 Typerating out of your pocket: $50.000, good for 6 months before it expires.
Pay for airline experience through intermediate companies based in Luxemburg or Spain, at aprox $110.000, where you are paying to work in a A320 for airlines in Romania, Malta and Bulgaria. This package includes 500hrs in the A320. It will probably take you 8 months to get those 500 hrs on type. You have to pay ur own apartment in this country as well as meals and all living expenses associated with it during the 8 months.
After that you can come back to ur country and stand in line for an instructor job at the local airport. As of 2007, there where 3500 pilots unemployed in Spain standing in line for an isnturctor job in a C172.
Dont you guys think for a second that France and England have the "standard atmosphere" in Europe. They dont set the tone for the continent.
I just wonder what these kids, that have spent a quarter of a million dollars in flight training, including as well doing some despicable things like paying to work, all of a sudden seeing a US Citizen coming over to EU and taking a regional job flying an A320 for Clickair for 1500 euros a month... I guess they just walked right into it by swallowing this "paying to work" thing...
Man Id love to be able to read their languages just to see what their forums are reading...
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i too have first hand knowledge how it s done over there.. it s though but not that though...
plenty of friends flying for the airlines there, none paid for their A320, B737 or whatever type rating.
that s only if you want to get an ATPL. airlines there are hiring with a commercial + WRITTEN ATPL. they ll give you your ATPL when you upgrade. i ll give you that getting a JAA license is a lot more expensive than getting an FAA one.
it s pretty easy, to fly here a foreigner must:
1-get an FAA license
2-have the right to work here
3-speak the language
to work there a foreigner (US citizen) must
1-get an JAA license
2-have the right to work there
3-speak the language
same goes both ways.
it s just as hard for a foreigner to have the LEGAL right to work here as for you to get the legal right to work in Europe.