Originally Posted by
NWA320pilot
Guys we aretalking about recovery at first recognition. That being said how many of you have had the shaker inoped in training so that the recovery is initiated and first onset (buffet)? The Colgan plane was 31* NOSE HIGH, no transport category aircraft is even approved for that flight envelope.
So should we train for rolls as was pointed out above that could happen? How about pitch limits well outside the design envelope of the aircraft? We don't because the plane is NOT certified to be operated this way. All airline training should require unusual attitude/upset recovery, and this is done within the design envelope of the aircraft. We are not flying aircraft designed to be flown under these extremes. Could it happen, absolutely but this is where experience kicks in and hopefully the outcome will be successful.
well, why was it 31 nose high? The CA yanked back and held it there until the airplane went through the roof of the house..............If the nose was 31* before the CA touched the airplane, maybe when the AP kicked off it was trimmed to this I dunno the specifics, but 31 is an extreme amount of pitch up attitude for sure