Originally Posted by
ToiletDuck
The RAH contract is still in the air. We have no idea what they are currently debating and yelling at those of us here about it isn't going to help anything one way or another. Feel free to be supportive all you'd like but give the rest a break. Another "I heard from a FA" thread with explosive results. It's comical. Lets worry about that situation if it arises.
US Air caps at $95 per hour from 10yrs on up.
RAH 10yr pay =$90 for 175+. At 12yrs equal. At 15yrs it's $10+ over US Air.
When everyone is arguing pay are they talking about first year FO pay? I have no doubt our guys are working on FO pay. Lets not play Micheal Moore with the numbers. They can all be pushed out of context. Why don't we all jump over to the cargo board and jump up and down on UPS guys because they pay $35 an hour to fly a 747! Truth be told there's always more than just that first little number everyone spouts. I know I know the FO pay still isn't great but give a little credit when due and appreciate everything that's taken place and the ability of the pilot group to contain it as well as they have. Given the extremely rapid expansion of the company as well has all the little holes they've tried to poke in the contract i'm still rather proud of my pilot group for the stances they've taken. I've seen other groups bend over and take it on some of these same issues where ours has stood firm and now is moving forward hopefully with current negotiations.
So what we gather from your post is that you're ok with the current pay scale because UPS pays $35 to fly 747. Actually, a new hire at UPS would probably not see the 74 for a few years, but that's besides the point.
Here's the problem with your post, you make it seem like if "we can do better that's great", if not "then that's great too" because we catch up to USair in 12 years (BTW, they are operating under concessions and haven't completed their contract)!!!
Seriously, if the "modern day Lorenzo" is inevitably going to bring the 190's on property the least you guys can ask for is Jetblue plus 10...that's at a bare minimum! But you and I know that the reverend isn't going to fork out that kinda of cash, so what are you prepare to do?
Will you just take the flying for the sake of growth and an upgrade at whatever rates his divine hand gives you? Or will you stand up for the future of the profession, for your career, and for what's right?
So toilet duck, what's it going to be? I've talked to some of your peers and they will put up a fight, but they are not "faithful" followers. Which will you choose?
Honest question, no flame.