Originally Posted by
mcdbirdman
So your solution is what? Vote this down, have all the neg committee resign and most of the MEC, go for another 6-12 mo and then strike? If you are gonna vote no then tell me "What happens next?"when you do. Do you think we can get better by voting no?
Why do you feel a no vote would mean everyone would need to step down. All it would mean is they did not gain as much ground as the voters felt they deserved. Really, aside from some nice wording in sections, an agency shop going forward, some minor stop gap solutions for retirees (which can be changed whenever the company wants like they've done already) what did we get. Based upon your pay rates on Dec 03 (the last pay raise) will your standard of living be much beter with the new contract in Dec 10? Your basic pay rates relatively speaking will still be the same no increase. If you fly int some Int override will offset the declining dollar overseas and 5-7% international cost of living increases. We added a small B fund bump with a company dependant A fund. Where are the retirement options? Increased B fund with decreased A fund for younger guys. A three tier proposal? These were some of the ideas I thought we were addressing.
Of the cornerstones, one, scope was completely unaddressed. We still left the door wide open for a Chinese FDX airline. They could operate 150 planes all over China 73s, 75s, who cares because it would be allowed under the scope section. Since we have already added TNT, all they need is to wrap an airline under the TNT label and they are off and running. We didn't even fix Tradewinds. I think the 72 seat RJs they are buying for the feeder ops continue to get free passes. As long as they don't duplicate routes, the RJs can move lots of freight for free. You could send one Norfolk to Newark and another Norfolk to Greensboro and another to Indy and it would all be within the scope section. Lots of scope problems on the horizon and are we going to lose 4 more years waiting to fix them.
I am very appreciative of the hard work, but it sure looks like we laid down on a lot of sections. Personally, I was hoping for a 15% snap back then cost of living for the 2.5 years waiting and 3% per for every year going forward. Put some penalty increases in after the amendable date. 4% at the one year point, 5% at the two year point. I wanted to see an 11-13% B fund choice in exchange for a 35-40% capped A fund, or something like that. Money in my account not theirs. Min Pay per day. I feel like I waited all year for Christmas and opened the same present I got last year, just with a nicer ribbon.
I hope they show us the results of all the polling. It would be very helpful to know how everyone answered. If 90% feel one way and I'm in the 10%, maybe I need to rethink my position. Or if it was 51% on way that's helpful to. We need to know what the fellows said they wanted. If this is really what we all said we wanted then so be it. But.....