Originally Posted by
kalyx522
Well my earnings last year were pretty decent too. it looks like i am just a little junior to you, and I grossed almost 36k. and that is not including more than 3k in per diem. might sound good, but I dont think its relevant to bring up last year's pay to a "prospective" colganite, because it just isn't the same anymore. last year we had it good because there were tons of extra flying to go around. that is not going to happen this year or the next. i dont expect to see more than 25k this year. even if i start off with an 85-hr line i always fall below guarantee now because of maintenance cancellations that only garner 2 hrs credit. nowadays we're looking at (relatively) longer upgrades, no open time, and making bare guarantee at $27/hr while we wait for upgrade. and that's what the prospective guys need to know. you're right, i agree things will get better, with the union... but i think it will be a whiiiile before we see a contract.
and i agree, i've met some awesome guys here, there are some captains who would be on top of my list for "people i'll share with when i win the lotto." but, i'm certain that every other airline has great people as well.
Well I hope that I count in that lotto winnings
We haven't flow together, but still, I don't think I've ticked you off since I've been here, haha. I agree with you though ... there's NO open time at all. No people on the street, and ZERO open time. It sucks ... the zero open time, not the no people on the street part
Originally Posted by
The Juice
Upgrade will not be bad compared to the rest of the industry. I have been here for 2 years and will see upgrade at the end of 2009 or the first of 2010 for the ramp up of the Q deliveries...so still less than 3 years which is great when you look at the times we are in.
Pay sucks but hopefully one day it will be better with a contract. In 2008 my earnings were 27,400 with 4 months of that year being at 21/hr and the last 8 being 26/hr. So it was about 31,400 gross for the year when you include per diem. I averaged 93.5 hours a month credit and a lot of that was when we were short on FO's so I had a few 120+ credit months in there because of the open time.
I am senior at a senior base so QOL is not that bad. I have 14 days off this month, with weekends off but that is not the case for all.
All in All not too bad. Great pilot group makes up for the issues with mgmt. And lets get real, the industry sucks right now so I am happy to have a job right now.
Things will get better with a union on property.
I really hope you see upgrade that soon brother! I think a lot of guys aren't going to see it until next summer. Talked with a few upper people recently who've said they've pretty much frozen upgrades and base transfers unless they are accommodating for attrition. But I hope for the best for you!
Originally Posted by
usmc-sgt
QOL is not so horrible at EWR. I usually hold 15 days off (this month will be 16-17 but that may be a fluke, we will see if we ever get these lines again.) I usually bid overnights near my home which will help and this month even more with the addition of BOS overnights so most trips I spend at least 1 night or so at home. I do not typically credit much more than 75-80 at the most but bidding commutable trips is my number 1 priority. I flew just barely under 1000 hours last year and didnt feel like I worked terribly hard.
Could be better...much better but I suppose it could be worse.
Well that's good that you're able to do that, but just how senior are you? I have a feeling you're rather senior. There are about 20 or so 7000s and above on the Q ... the rest are all 8000.
