On another note - not too long ago I got a "new" rifle from my father in law that was given to him (he had no real interest in it) that I'm very excited to go out and shoot! Its a .264 win mag and the gun doesn't look like its EVER fired a shot! its imaculate! no slide marks on the bolt, any marks in the magazine, stock is flawless. From what I hear the .264 win mag is a very fast, very flat shooting cartrige and would be an awesome coyote getter! I've got a 243 for deer and 30-06 for deer/elk and this .264 has some weight to it! however with the heavier barrel etc. I"m curious to see how accurate I can get this thing! I think it has great potential and I"m curious to see how it works - it also has a Tasco "euro class" 4-12x50 power scope on it that will be interesting to see how well it works. The rifle is a Remington 700 classic made in 86 so I"m guessing the scope is the same vintage - sounds like the euro class was one of the higher end scopes that tasco ever made and I read some decent things about them - but I"m not real crazy about the large objective lens and weight, then again may work well for a long range varmit rifle. Ideally I may want to put a better/lighter Leupold or Nikon on there but we'll see. Thats pretty far down the priority spending list so hopefully I'll be satisfied with the scope thats on it. Anyone have any expirience with these scopes or calibers? I hope to take it out and shoot it some time in the next couple weeks so we'll see what kind of groupings I get.