or do sheppardair.com...cheaper than ATP and the SAME THING....... i am mad bc i took my atp written aug 08... I am short on the hours right now and will be air force pilot trianing when it expires... there is something in the FAR's about it not expiring if you fly a transport catagory military aircraft.... I have to look into it more.. I am not a lasergrade proctor and it makes it difficult for me to take writtens........plus studying for it again