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Old 04-21-2009 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
What allegations would you be referring to? What seems fishy? This is how they perform raids. They don't want to give them time to destroy any evidence. "All the officers and people that actually KNOW our contracts" are still intact and working there. Where are you getting your information from? There are free lines to call where you can speak with someone to get factual information. Lastly the official notices of actions to be taken are directly from Hoffa himself not Bourne. There's nothing low about raiding the offices of a lawyer who's breaking the law and neglecting the people that pay his salary. Why are you against thi... wait.. Gene?
lol, not quite.

I think you misunderstood my usage of the term "raid." Raid in union-speak means "stealing" other union's members (in this case one local stealing from another local). It's just a little off to me that not too long ago 1224 was hurting because of the ABX furloughs and now they've got new blood with one of their own in the top spot in the airline division. all im saying is that its questionable that all these guys are all related in some way.

Maybe i'm connecting too many dots, but this is what I do know:

(1) i can't talk to my business agent (one of the only people that really know my contract and my grievance process) because they got rid of all them too when they axed 747's ELECTED executive board. now who is there to help me with the interpretation or filing a grievance? maybe they know atlas' contract but they certainly don't know mine...

(2) the whole function of a general counsel in a business is to MANAGE the company's legal affairs, not DO all the legal work. all general counsels out-source work to other outside firms or attorneys depending on the work flow. besides, i'd rather have sowell out negotiating my damn contract rather than some guy in a monkey suit like me. especially when you're faced with the POS management we have and the attorneys that they put across the negotiating table.

how much do you think attorneys make by the way? my wife is an attorney (thankfully someone can pay the bills, lol) and judging from how much the partners make at her firm, sowell's salary? a drop in the bucket in comparison. i'm not sticking up for the guy, but i'm not into lynching just because someone makes more than me, because that would mean i'd have to get mad at the grocery baggers at Safeway or Wegmans.

(3) hoffa never has liked us. we're pilots remember? lol. most of us aren't exactly the pro-union type and we certainly weren't pro-obama. i remember all the crap on our boards during the election about how everyone was ****ed that the international was calling their cell phones.

(4) all the allegations that members didn't know that they had to pay dues from the time the teamsters were voted in? uhh, we all knew we had to pay dues from the get-go at 747 and i'm sure they did too. they just have a convenient memory because they think they can maybe take advantage of the situation and get a free ride. besides, the policy is the same as alpa's. we all knew the policy when we signed up. and if you think that i'm paying for some other pilot group's legal fees and support costs while they're in negotiations for 2-4 years and they're not paying a dime? think again. the only thing voluntary about paying dues before your first contract is that it’s on the honor system. the company refused to give the local any pay rates before we had our contract (they weren't legally bound to, so they didn't) so we had to call in and give them our pay rates to figure out our dues obligation.

I guess we'll find out the "truth" whenever they get around to actually having some sort of hearing.
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