You obviously haven't experienced mesa...I walked out of a mesa upgrade class (and years of seniority) to start over elsewhere. That's how bad it is. Besides, I saw enough of mesa's operational catastrophes this summer to conclude that they are probably going to get fired by one or more of their partners asap...you think being a 5 year FO is bad, TRY BEING A 5 YEAR FO AT F&%KING MESA!!!


Also, my seniority was moving about 5-8 numbers a month (yes five) out of 1900 pilots...that accounts for a retirements, motorcycle accidents, and military recalls...and one maybe two pilots PER MONTH getting hired at the majors! That is a very, very bad number...those who upgrade now will be on reserve for life, if they don't get flushed back to FO when the layoffs start.