Originally Posted by
ToiletDuck
I fly the erj and that is what we compare too. While he does have a little more in match I apparently fly more hours on average and have more days off. What hits our bank account is relatively the same. Obviously we're working on getting higher pay for everything flown. My issue is that having industry leading pay with today's current standards is like saying I have the best form of cancer. Congratulations and all but what good is it really? Like tpersuit I made $40k last year which is still crap. Keeps me in the bars, a roof over my head, and clothes on my back but still crap none the less. Flying is flying and it's not owned by anyone. Don't care who it is. Our 170 US Air flying is not really ours. So when contracts become available everyone has the right to bid on them. By XJT underbidding SKYW it set the notion that "we'll do whatever it takes to keep the doors open" which isn't good. Recent proof was with the number came to CHQ with to fly new aircraft. Had XJT not taken that deal it's possible the number CAL came up with would have been higher. Now they know where to go when they need dirt cheap rates. My only hope is that XJT stays with CAL and doesn't start using these rates with others or we could all be taking a pay hit one day.
PS. I'm all for the fair tax.
I was only trying to say that to make a fair comparison on our crap compensation is to compare the total compensation for a given longevity and divide that by actual amount of block hours you flew that year. The XJT contract also provides for many QOL improvements that are not quantifiable.
As for the underbidding, XJT did not underbid SKW. XJT was forced to accept the CPA SKW negotiated with CAL or CAL was going to cancel the whole CPA. Anyone can make their own judgement whether that was good or not but I want to point out that was not the pilots decision. The pilots only have the slight ability to control their pay. The fact that our paycuts keeps us at the top of the industry and is a break even proposition for XJT may actually help if the management can turn this around by gaining more profitable flying with our current industry leading compensation.
PS. Its too bad more people aren't for the FairTax. It would solve many of the problems we have today.