So what makes the MD 11 such a bugger to land. I had the opportunity to jump seat with you guys from Subic to KIX a number of years back, and after a beautiful approach from the FO we really pounded on, not that I disgree with a firm touchdown, we just really hit hard. At any rate, I didn't say anything, but the FO turned around after and made a comment to me about the airplane being tough to land as the stretch made it very pitch sensative. Later that day one of the MD 11's ended up on it's back, I think at Newark. Also, World has had a very hard landing (one that I know of)and Mandarin wrote that one off in Hong Kong. It appears to have a bit of a problem, but as I've never touchd the controls of one. . .any comments?