Originally Posted by
River6
If it's the best in world lets do a comparison of all the Major Airline crashes in the last 15 years and bet you any amount of money that 95% of the Captains who were piloting those aircraft were military trained. So the best training in the world comes with questions? To say a pilot who is trained in the military is a better pilot to someone who comes out of a school like Purdue, or ERAU is naive on your part. Most of the F-teen drivers and heavy drivers come to the majors with 1500tt over a period of 10 to 15 years which comes up to be 100 hours a year. In peace time, it's less than that. To say they are better pilots than some guy who has been flying RJ, ATR's in and out of Boston, LGA, JFK and logs 1000hour in one year and comes to the majors with 6000 hours of airline experience is a joke!
A few recent crashes that had Captains all trained by the Uniited States military.
Captain Richard Bushmann AMR flight that crashed in LIT
Captain Edward States AMR flight that crashed in Queens
Captain Nicholas Tafuri AMR flight that crashed in Cali
All were contibuted to pilot error. Accidents happen and will continue to happen for some ex-military/aviation expert to say the Colgan Captain was not as well trained as military pilot is a crock!
YOU FUNNY RIVER6!
First off - I never said that. You are welcome to go to my profile page and search ALL of my posts and I will pay YOU some repsect if you find a post where I said that military pilots are better than civilian pilots.
You River said that military pilots don't have stick and rudder skills.
You are naive if you believe this.
First bold comment. Please do this research. I'm sure that many would be interested in the results. Please share them on the forum when you finish the project.
Second bold point. Your information is very flawed River. The first part is wrong in that if someone flew straight for 15 years - they would have more than 1500TT. Most instructors in my squadorn (and I come from the tac air community which gets probably the LEAST amount of flight time) have been flying for 6-7 years (the new instructors) and already have between 1200 to 1500 hours in TYPE. Ones who have been flying TYPE for 15 years like you assert have over 2000-3000 in TYPE - and this is with a few years doing OTHER things - like ground tours, IA billets, schools, staff tours, etc....
On average - you'll find a tac air guy flying about 220-280 hrs per year. That is a lot of sorties when many of your flights might be around 0.9-1.1; most of which is spent actually FLYING the airplane too - stick and rudder skills - not flying in the flight levels for hours at a time on autopilot (in my community)
Best training in the world. Yes - I think so. The amount of different things that I was trained on, and to what standards, was worlds apart in my first 300 hours of civvie time compared to my first 300 hours of military time. The amount of money that was spent on said training, the academics, the courseware, the simulator training, the facilities, etc.... (yes - even in the USN/USMC) are top notch - and those pesky IPs know their stuff pretty well too
Sorry that you seem to have such a low opinion of the military trained pilot and insist of picking out a few mishaps where there was a military trained pilot at the controls. I certainly never said that we were Gods of aviation. I almost crashed myself just this afternoon. I made a mistake. I got a little too close to the jet wash of the student I was chasing around at 200' and nearly 500 mph while in a 5 g turn and I went for a Mr Toad's wild ride for about 2-3 seconds. Scared the crap out of me! Btw - I was only on autopilot for a total of 10 minutes today - and that was only so I could provide my wingman a stable platform to fly formation on. Love this jon and I;m going to miss it terribly.
USMCFLYR