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Old 05-17-2009 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
I disagree with that premise period. Military screening has no direct correlation with IQ required to being a smart airline pilot.
Nobody said that. What was said was that statistically, the average IQ score of military pilots(as a group) is higher than the average IQ score of civilian pilots(as a group). This is because the military process selectively reduces the scoring range by screening, which is not done in the civilian world. In fact atpcliff makes note that this has NO bearing on the quality of the final product.

Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
All it proves is that a candidate has an aptitude for flying including spatial orientation and situational awareness on PAPER. It is at the weeding out process during the actual flight training that sifts out most talented. Even then many slip through the crack as evidenced by the accident figures.
That's funny, that's exactly what atpcliff said.

Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
As someone indicated, many "smart" civilian pilot candidate do not opt for the military.
That was me who said that. So who are you arguing with again?

Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
Unless you take a random sampling of statistically significant sample of all military pilot selectee versus all civilian pilot students, the statement that military pilots are on average smarter than civilian pilots is an unsubstantiated rumor. I've seen a lot of dumb and smart pilots on both ends, civilian and military.
We are not talking about individuals, but rather groups as a whole. Fact is the civilian pilot group has lower scorers that drag down the average. This does not occur in the military group because of the selective screening barrier. But once again, both of us have said that this has NO bearing on the quality of the pilot. Hey atpcliff, why am I arguing your point.

Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
Military does provide a superior training, discipline and unique flying experience you can't get anywhere else. Take it for what it's worth from a guy trained as a civilian first then and in the military.
Thanks for reiterating what both of us have already said.

The word "smarter" is polarizing. Maybe atpcliff could have used a different term. Regardless, I have no problem making the statement that military pilots, as a group, score statistically higher on IQ tests than civilian pilots ,as a group. That's coming by the way from someone who was never in the military.

Does that make the average militray pilot a better pilot than me? No. Does that make the average military pilot smarter than me? No

Next time read the entire thread first so that you can accurately judge the content and meaning of our posts. Thanks for playing.
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