Originally Posted by
RockyBoy
The problem is that all airlines train "approach to stalls" and not stall and spin recovery.
No, that is not a problem. Airlines fly part 25 airplanes, you don't spin part 25 airplanes.
A pilot needs to have the basic stall recovery techniques ingrained in his brain well before he learns how to deal with an incipient stall in airline training. Stall recovery (reduce the angle of attack) is different than recovering from a low energy approach to stall.
When you recover from an approach to stall you add power and maintain pitch or in some aircraft increase pitch. After doing this over and over again in the sim, I can see why one would pull up rather than nose over in an actual stall. If you pulled back 50 times in the sim when you got the shaker, you'll pull back when you get the shaker in the airplane.
In CFI training, you learn all of the laws of learning. One of those laws is primacy. First in stays in the best. If a pilot comes to the airlines knowing how to recover from a real stall, that ability is not erased by airline style low speed recovery training.
Next time you have a PC ask the instructor to let you recover from an actual stall at 1500 feet and then another one at FL370. If you have never done it, you will shortly find out that you don't want to see it for the first time after a long day in the ice going into BUF.
good advice. I've done real stalls in swept wing jets (functional flight checks) and they are an eye opening experience. If the bird really stalls, constant altitude is not an option.