And in this mentality lies one of the problems. Wasn't flight instructing, mapping, traffic watch, pipeline patrol, fish spotting, jumper pilot, banner towing, air ambulance, freight dogging, or insert here, part of paying those dues. It's sad when you have 3 year FOs on 50 seat jets making $37 X monthly minimum because of outsourcing and downsizing. 4 year degrees, $30,000-50,000 in flight training debt to make $32,000 after 4-5 years as a Proffesional/commercial aviator. My aunt makes more as a cashier at Safeway. Flying is great, but there needs to be a voice of reason to advocate for the betterment of the industry. As long as people are willing to leapfrog to the left seat to get to a major by working for less money, it's hard to believe this industry will get better. However, the tragic thing is, I don't see the workforce collectively identifying that the wages are substandard. Maybe that's why so many are leaving to be cops and firefighters. I take it 1st year CAL FO's are paying their dues? How about UAL 8 year FOs? The system is broken and sadly in the end for the majority of us, pointing a finger at the problem only does any good if you're in front of the mirror.