Originally Posted by flyinaggie

Coming from someone on the inside...

I just heard about this about an hour ago, and have talked to a few other FO friends here on the 170, and every single person I have talked to feels like ****. The agreement only includes 2 airplanes as of now, but its a bad precedent to set....

When it comes down to it, we must admit we are EMPLOYEES and not OWNERS and STOCKHOLDERS. In a capitalist system, companies are run for the benefit of the equity holders. All the talk on here of us "stopping" them from getting these stupid 190's is completely unrealistic and egotistical. HOWEVER, the one thing we have control over is demanding the compensation commensurate with an aircraft of that size. Our last contract negotiations took place at a time when the largest aircraft we flew was a E145, and our FO payscale was slightly above industry average for that type. Times have changed, and we are obviously no longer being paid a fair amount for an aircraft of that size or weight. We are in negotiations now, and I guarantee you we will be fighting for just pay! JetBlue pays $55/hr on 3rd year pay, and Airways pays $46. Right now our third year pay is at $35/hr....unacceptable! This WILL change in the next contract, b/c if it doesnt, every FO I know will vote no...

The way to stop the outsourcing of mainline jobs with these "ERJ"s is to remove the cost-savings incentive to do so, thats it folks.