Ok.... let's level the playing field this way then. If our management is so shrewd enough to negotiate a contract with DL that essentially has no "benefits" travel-wise for the employees, I'm sure that Phil is shrewd enough to say, "hey, Richard, I'm sure you could save some cash by just eliminating all employee non-rev travel for DL mainline and DCIs".

Mr. Big-Iron-Driver (and I mean that in a completely non-condescending way), what would *you* suggest as the best course of action if your benefits were threatened as such. Are they negotiated into the JPWA? What about all you Comair folks, all you ASA and Skywest folks, etc?

I have accomplished something here.... to hear that we want to deny non-revvers has ticked off some enough into posting into this thread. That gets you thinking, hey there's a guy here who does the same crap we do but gets completely hosed.

And as far as flexing the contract balls, you should know more than anyone else that you can only flex them as far as the law allows.... hello lost pension! Hello gutted wages.... you guys just "let that happen" after 9/11.... yeah right! No one lets that happen, you had it forced upon you, much like we're forced to wait and wait and wait until we can strike!