Originally Posted by
Tomcat
Am I the only one that finds this odd? The new technology 100 seat aircraft isn't even on the radar screen of Boeing or Airbus and if it was, how long would it take to make it to the line when it isn't even on paper? 2018-2020 perhaps? Both companies are tied up with the 380, 350, 787, 747-800. Do these companies even have the resources to put a major push on for these airframes? Yes, I know they have had a couple of study groups, but they have been dissolved. Now it seems that Sukhoi, Mitsubishi, Bombardier, Embraer are all hot and excited about this 90-130 seat market. Image; Wolf lick jowls.
I'm not sure the DC-9's are going to make it to 2018-2020. How are going to replace those aircraft when they drop dead? Are we going to replace these aircraft?
Our guys don't know anything about RAH's EMB-190's?
Come on!
The top management of the worlds largest airline and they don't know what's going on inside our industry? Maybe they were just having a bad day and being forgetful? Pick up a Aviation Week guys. Google airline industry news. I know you're busy, but I know you can do it! I have faith in you! We love you guys!!!!!! You're doing a great job running the the largest airline in the world, but maybe go to the Paris airshow and see what's out there!!!!
O.K. I feel better now!
I agree with all of the above.
The RAH 190 quesiton was the first in the Q&A. After the Q&A when there was time just to hang out and talk the person who asked that question went up and talked some more, I think he had a news article to back it up. I'd like to know more about what they talked about but I couldn't stay.
As to the C-Series and E-190, I was hoping it was just a lease term issue on the later as to why its not been ordered. But they said cargo capacity, cargo volume or performance was the issue on both. If thats the case, then it means what Embraer has and whats coming off the drawing board at Bombardier doesn't interest some at DAL. Funny thing, the E175 and CRJ900 interest them just fine.
I am looking at the asking price for these birds as of 2009... CRJ700 and 900 are $36.5M and $40.4M. The E175 and 190 are $33.5 and $37.5. Those numbers are far far from what you actually pay and everyone knows that but when you can buy used 5 MD-90s for the asking price of a CRJ900 then I can see how you've probably got to offer DAL a lot of incentive in this market to put cash into leases on new 100 seat birds from either B or E and neither have accomplished that sell. Anotherwords, it makes complete sense to get 100 seat
mainline aircraft unless of course that same amount of money/investment/cash flow can make more money doing something else. But thats just my guess.