Originally Posted by
STILL GROUNDED
I still don't understand why it is tied to seats. A life is a life and that's what I feel responsible too.
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A life is not a life when litigation is involved. In wrongful death cases, a life is judged by its earning potential. Also, if I hard one person, there is only one case, if I hurt 100 people, there will be 100 cases.
So, more risk, more pay.
Originally Posted by
STILL GROUNDED
I like where you are going with this, but more so then the ATP I think both pilots should be typed.
And what is with this probation crap anyway, if I am not good enough for your company you shouldn't have hired me and spent the money to train me in the first place! I'll say that about Jet Blue, at least they treat and value you like everyone else from day one.
If you're a typed ATP full pay form day one. None of this $25 an hour and no health insurance for 6 months.
In my mind, probationary period would last until the end of IOE. Until that time, the candidate is NOT a fully qualified crew member. He/she requires a check airman, who is getting an override.
Originally Posted by
BoilerUP
Re: $2 per seat CA/$1 per seat FO:
Papa always taught me to never say never, but no airline captain is going to make $500+/hr...at least not in my lifetime. And I'm only 25.
Sure that'd be ideal, but its not realistic in the least.
Point well taken.
Perhaps something more like $36,000 plus 50 cents per seat per hour for CA. For 75 hours per month, that yields:
19 Seats: $40.5k ($45 per hour)
34 Seats: $51k ($57 per hour)
50 Seats: $58K ($65 per hour)
70 Seats: $77.5k ($86 per hour)
100 Seats: $91k ($101 per hour -- Midwest 717 $82 -- AA MD80 $149 )
400 Seats: $216k ($240 per hour -- AA 777 $189-- CO Wide $180)
FO $24,000 plus 25 cents
19 Seats: $28k ($31 per hour)
34 Seats: $31.5k ($35 per hour)
50 Seats: $35.5K ($40 per hour)
70 Seats: $40k ($45 per hour)
100 Seats: $46.5k ($52 per hour -- Midwest 717 $41 -- AA MD80 $75)
400 Seats: $114k ($127 per hour -- AA $95 -- CO $75)
(AA and CO are second year pay)
Maybe something like that is a bit more realistic.