Originally Posted by bryris

Both pilots on Colgan had ATP minimums or greater and both passed their rides and were properly credentialed to be there. Where do you draw the line? The Comair crash, both pilots had several thousand hours if I recall. The 747 collision in the Canaries, the Concord accident, the Continental DEN runway overrun, the Air Florida icing accident. Again, where do you draw the line?

I have yet to see a way to draw a relationship between anything quantitative (hard facts) on crew experience vs. crash occurrences. Those Air France pilots both had a slew of experience I am sure.

I am afraid we are chasing rainbows to make ourselves feel better and hope that the competition will become less through an act of congress. Won't happen. Fatigue might be addressed, training programs might be changed to implement similar situations, etc. But the low time guys will still be hired because there doesn't appear to be a direct track record between lack of experience and crashes.

That being said, perhaps my last post makes more sense now.