Your argument is like observing a slew of car crashes occurring by drivers from 25-65 years old, then drawing the conclusion that the minimum driving age needs to be raised higher than 16. Why? It doesn't compute.

I did catch much of the Colgan transcript. I heard what was said. But, I stand by the point that ATP mins doesn't do a thing to fix that and I reiterate that both were qualified to be there and had ATP+ hours. What goes into pilot qualification might be at issue, but a blanket hour minimum does nothing but make us with the hours feel warm and toasty.

I bet Marvin, sitting down over a cup of coffee, could tell you anything you needed to know about stalls and proper recovery. The planets aligned (or misaligned) that evening and all hell broke loose. The problem's solution isn't a simple "raise the standards" - crash history throughout commercial aviation doesn't support that argument. Perhaps a thorough study of human factors is mertied. That would likely shed more light on what happened than anything else.