I'm not arguing that point, what i am arguing is that there is a cost associated with keeping people on property as well as a cost to furlough. At some point, time and cost could exceed the cost of keeping those jobs on property but there is a pro vs con argument now unlike in previous times. Before the merger, flow, triggers, etc they could furlough first and think about it later. Now they have to think and weigh the options first before jumping which is a good thing. As of now they seem to just prefer being a little fat instead of dropping the F-bomb. Like i said nothings certain in this job and could change but i think we'll see more PIRPs offered before they start the CF of cutting pilots. If they do, then i'll may end up at Compass or Home Depot for a while while the company gets its ducks in a row or we start actually seeing the waves of retirements that ARE coming. Soon they'll be dropping like flies once the age 65 rule change has taken full effect.