Originally Posted by
JoeyMeatballs
I am not saying there are not cases where pilots truly are fatigued but increasing our rest will have a very very negative effect on our QOL. Our trips will be less productive, and our days off will go down. I think the overall lifestyle and pay has more to do with feeling rundown than an actual duty day. If we were paid more we would not have to fly close to 100hrs to pay the bills and have some extra cash (for those that don't need to fly 100hrs, your lucky, living in Hoboken, NJ and paying off school loans is a KILLER)
anyway I just wanted to point out that more rest is not necessarily the solution.............
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Well my friend, that might be the case for the EWR flying, but here in IAH we have overnights in Mexico that are exactly 8hrs with a van ride of 45 mins each way. By the time you get into your hotel, change, brush your teeth and hit the sack you might have 5 hours of sleep if you're lucky.
Also, I thought you were ALPA, or are you not anymore? Mr Wykoff, might be a little angry at you considering that he's been pushing for reform for many years now and put out an excellent guide in the ALPA magazine a couple of months back. It should also be noted that the NTSB disagrees with your assessment, the reason why the rule needs to be changed from 8 to 10 is to assure that there are actually 8 hours available for rest, being in the van does not count, being at the airport does not count either.
You're a lot younger than the majority of us at XJT, so of course you probably can do with a lot less sleep than some of us, and still be able to operate your aircraft safely. I have to say Joe, I'm a bit disappointed to see you posting stuff like this. Safety should always be first, above all, including QOL and days off (which I also like), and clearly the NTSB and even our own union have compiled enough data to support reform.