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Old 06-17-2009 | 09:53 AM
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Copperhed51
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Originally Posted by TBucket
Waaawaawawawaaaaiiiiit a minute, they actually tell you you're NOT ALLOWED to look at a chart???? Are you kidding me? Who the hell thought that was a good idea? (And why are the feds not going nuts on them???)
The PF can look at the chart before the approach or whatever we're doing but after that the chart goes to the PNF and the PF just asks the PF what's going to happen next. On my checkride, I basically drew the charts on my TOLD card so that I'd know what was happening and what the missed was going to be like. It's so stupid. We put an altitude into the preselect for the next segment of the approach. Once we get within 100 feet of that preselected altitude the PNF says "(altitude in preselect) captured" and the PF says "say next altitude." Guess what happens if the one guy who's looking at the chart gets that next altitude wrong. Maybe that wrong altitude will keep you too high or maybe it will step you down right into a mountain, I don't know. Point is you've just taken a two-person crew and effectively made it a one-person crew. They told us in ground school that it would be dangerous to have a chart in front of the PF because we don't have an autopilot and they'd take their eyes off the instruments...I kid you not. So yeah, the PF does get to look at the chart but once the approach has started, it's all 21 questions from there.

Our company is working on getting ASAP apparently so maybe once that is implemented then things will change. I know of a couple of crews that have gotten LOI's for busting altitude restrictions out of ONT on the prado7. Doubt it would have happened with a chart in front of the PF. For now I file NASA reports constantly and hope somebody notices.
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