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Old 06-19-2009 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kalyx522
..see below...
I split up your post to make more sense of my reply…

I don't know when you recruited, and I don't doubt this, however I don't think that this would necessarily be the case across every regional in the recent years.

All within the last 10 years and I agree with you that it doesn’t always happen… My point is legalized discrimination is wrong whether we see it every day or only every now and then…

When I was hired, a lot of the regionals were hiring just about everyone, period. and like saltydog mentioned, the number of us have steadily increased through the recent years and while we're still in the minority there are a lot more women in the regionals... meaning I'm not *special* anymore!

Yes you are, the affirmative action says so and that’s why it’s wrong… You’re probably a great pilot but you should reach your goals like everyone else and not have to wonder if you got the job because you’re an innie or an outie… or white, black, hispanic, etc... Should not matter... (they’ll never admit it to you by the way). We shouldn't even have to include our race/gender information on our applications...

hotmamapilot, how come you discount yourself like that? how do you know that you were not a shoo-in due to your fantastic personality or who knows what else recruiters look for? on paper, any military guy or someone with extensive intl/widebody/etc. would be more "qualified" than someone who doesnt have the above experience. and I'm not a recruiter but this is obviously not the only thing they look at... besides, 8 years of flying saabs is obviously not the same as f-16 or c-17, but it's still 8 years of flying 121. flipping through the past 10 pages or so it seems like numerous other guys got in with just part 135 turboprop time (or something else that isnt military) and one rec too, and you dont hear them saying i was just a shoo-in. I dunno, you may well have been a shoo-in, but unless the interviewer told me directly that that had been the case, I just wouldn't assume that about myself esp since it's not like you got hired with 500 hrs.

I don’t think she’s discounting herself, I think she’s being realistic… You have an idealistic view of this profession but once hiring resumes again soon enough you’ll realize that some people have better chances than others and it’s not necessarily due to their skills or their experiences…

If you honestly think that they it’s a level playing field out there now then why don’t you agree that we should scrap the affirmative action all together? I mean, you’re not ‘special’ anymore, right? ...or do you want to feel like you did it all on your own but also get some extra help just in case?

PS. Good discussion...
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