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Old 06-19-2009 | 08:36 PM
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⌐ AV8OR WANNABE
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Originally Posted by kalyx522
yes, it actually was my sex status that helped me to achieve my stellar regional career.



dude, i sense an argumentative tone here... i may be wrong, but it seems like you think that i am all for AA... i am quite unsure why this argument is even taking place because i never mentioned AA??? I DID say that I never expected special treatment.... but rather, its the guys around me who expect that i get special treatment. thats just the part that really annoys me, i mean i'd understand the snide and bitter comments if i were hired by some major at my current qualifications instead of sitting in the seat right next to them. yeah i might flash a flirty smile at a ramper to help us get that much-needed lav service, and that smile might not work had it come from a burly male pilot, but these days thats probably as far as the power of my sex goes.
i never thought or said that it's a level playing field... unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on who you know) its not and never will be for all the reasons above and probably a 100 more that is beyond my realm of reasoning. i do think however that the united-style hiring is never going to happen again due to the fact that there are a LOT more women in aviation now than even 5, 10 years ago.

the whole reason why i even responded in this thread was because hotmama mentioned that its wrong that women expect the sex card - my response was that most women DONT even expect that. so whether the expectation is right or wrong is all a nonissue to begin with.

Not sure why you sense an argumentative tone from me? I even mentioned that I enjoyed the discussion; I guess a discussion to you means being argumentative? Also, I’ve tried to be respectful to you so I’m not sure why you resort to calling me dude? I don’t even know you…

I replied to you because in my view you are contradicting yourself… You don’t agree with hotmama’s thoughts on AA yet you say that you don’t expect ‘special treatment’? Well, guess what, our own government provides you with that special treatment whether you want it or not.

I simply said that AA is wrong and hotmama agreed with me on that subject even though she’s a woman. You keep saying that it’s the ‘guys around you' who expect you to get a preferential treatment.. Wait long enough and you probably will… That’s why they are ‘expecting’ that…

That’s all.

PS. I really don't care about your "sex status" but your gender probably will matter in this discussion...

Again, I want to emphasize that I think both racism and sexism still exist to a certain extent and I do not know how to solve that problem... However, I don't think the way our government is doing it is the best way to deal with the problem... Why? Because discrimination is always wrong whether it’s done by individuals or by the government...

Last edited by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE; 06-19-2009 at 08:56 PM.
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