Originally Posted by
dojetdriver
If a guy goes to an FBO to get his ATP, how will they simulate a low vis take off like on a 121 type/PC? I know, you can joke that they could put the hood/foggles on him, but that's not reality.
The 5/5/5 or 6/6/6 take off may be required for that airline's approved training program, but not just to get an ATP cert.
Fair enough, though the poster appeared to be talking about FO rides @ a 121 carrier, not getting an ATP in a piston twin @ an FBO.
I was trying to make 2 points:
- Though an FO and CA ATP ride are to the same ATP standards, the airline FO ride is more lenient than the CA ride (and that's regardless of whether it is a type ride or not. CA's PC's are to the a higher standard than FO's too)
- it is not the possession of an ATP certificate that increases safety, it is the experiences required to get one (flight time, aviation knowledge, and life). Attitude and professionalism (which are arbitrary) will not provide the same minimum level of safety as a 100% ATP licensed pilot group. Requiring pilots to have an ATP before flying 121 is a proper balance of increasing safety without raising the barriers to entry into the profession to an unattainable level for prospective 121 pilots.