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Old 06-23-2009 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkyBN584
If F9 DOES become a part of RAH...their pilots will have to be integrated into the RAH pilot list. It's cut and dry in our contract.

F9 pilots stating BB is looking for complete scope relief are retarded. Scope relief on what??? BB isn't trying to buy your airline to farm the planes out for someone else to fly. It's another cut and dry portion of our contract. If RAH owns the airplane, then RAH pilots fly 'em. And if RAH buys F9, F9 pilots become RAH pilots. So...you...fly...your...own...airplane. That's the concept the majors lost sight of a LONG time ago.

AND - since we don't have an Airbus pay rate...that means it's negotiating time. They got 60 days to work out a pay rate before it goes to forced Arbitration (again, cut and dry out of the contract). If people think Airbii are just going to show up on property and we're going to happily cruise around in them for $30 an hour, they need to have their head examined. It's not like the end-around they pull putting "just enough" seats on a 190 and saying "Here, fly this". This is a whole new aircraft, with a whole new set of rules and actually...a lot more leverage for the pilot group.

Now...I'm just guessing on all this...it's amazing how many "experts" popped up for a News Release that's THREE HOURS OLD!
This is directly from Frontier's Pilot Union:

"There are many terms and conditions within the Republic Plan that must be satisfied in return for this investment. Of interest to FAPA Members – the Republic Plan requires changes be made to our CBA including a 3 year extension (to March 2, 2015) of the amendable date and a change to Section 1.F allowing for “unlimited scope relief.” For all employees, the Frontier profit sharing plan will be replaced with a Republic profit sharing plan. Republic’s terms are initial “asks” and not changes that will be casually forced upon us. Republic has indicated that they plan to operate Frontier as a separate fenced off company and not merge seniority lists."

I am not disagreeing with you that your contract states what you say it does. However, if there was going to be a merger in seniority lists, then why would they even ask for "unlimited scope relief"? Which...BB...did...ask...for. Perhaps BB thinks you will relax parts of your contract to allow Frontier to operate separately. He may exchange this for industry standard 170/190 pay (lets hope and pray!). That would save all those training costs. The point is that nobody knows. Lets just hope another bidder comes along and outbids RAH. If not, then lets hope there is no merger and Frontier operates separately.
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