Alfa (great car BTW), I have generally agreed with LM and his approach to union/management relations. As a student of history/economics/politics for the last 20 or so years I see where militant unionism has led. Except for government, the old model of union strategy has led to declining numbers of members and results. The last thing I want our union to become is the UAW. Well, maybe not a great example now with you know who in the big house.

I see the value that the current MEC has produced and think that only Lee's approach would have been that successful. I aggree with everything you have said about our MEC vs the North's. We are much better off for it.

But, and it's a big but, this scope issue is really scaring me! I trusted LM when he said in INDOC that he represents the most senior pilot to the most jurnior pilot. The condesention and the lack of information on the Scope issue though is maddening. It's engouh for me to start listening to Carl!

Every senior captain I fly with cares not a whit about scope. I see a big devide in the group over this issue. When the divide is between junior and senior we all know who loses that battle.

Listen to ACL, Tomcat, and others. Our perception is that we are being covered in poop and told it's chocolate. If the MEC's position is truly good for the entire group then explain to us. If it's just good for a certain segement of the group, then tell us that too. I am sure I am not the only fencesitter on the pro/con MEC issue.