Originally Posted by
Pineapple Guy
Carl, if you've really been around 30 years as you claim, you would see how silly the above statement is. LUV and UPS both have had substandard payrates for as long as I've been in the industry (20+ years). It is only after all of the majors went through bankruptcy that they suddenly look reasonably good.
They've had steady contract increases. We've had booms and busts. I think getting $300 per hour for a few years, followed by years of $170 per hour is stupid. Who can plan a family's future with that type of volatility. I think LUV and UPS have done a great job with their in-house unions. Clearly, you disagree.
Originally Posted by
Pineapple Guy
ALPA has its issues, with that I agree. But to imply that these guys had superior contracts because of their in house union is just flat wrong.
No such implication was made. My direct assertion is that a large union whose efforts and finances are TOTALLY devoted to what is good for the pilots of Delta Air Lines is why we should change to in-house. I assert that this would make our union represent the interests of its pilots - not "educate" pilots as to the opinions of the pilot's representatives. I also think that will produce superior contracts.
Carl